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Warren May
2003-09-04 01:30:25 UTC
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Is it just me or is the latest Radio Shack ad completely moronic? Exactly
where does one go to get an moron/ebonics-to-english translation for this
shit? Has anyone actually been provoked to buy a cell phone based on this
crap? I think i'm gonna puke. Yo-yo, don't cha be dis'in me in my hood 'cuz
i be da bad man wit da ladies and I be down wit it. Word.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHH!

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repatch
2003-09-04 03:16:52 UTC
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All I know is if I were from the demographic that the ad in question is
SUPPOSED to target I'd probably be pretty insulted, it belittles a large
community and is shameful in it's blatentness. Hopefully something good will
come out of it. TTYL
Post by Warren May
<begin rant>
Is it just me or is the latest Radio Shack ad completely moronic? Exactly
where does one go to get an moron/ebonics-to-english translation for this
shit? Has anyone actually been provoked to buy a cell phone based on this
crap? I think i'm gonna puke. Yo-yo, don't cha be dis'in me in my hood 'cuz
i be da bad man wit da ladies and I be down wit it. Word.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHH!
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repatch
2003-09-04 03:18:58 UTC
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Post by Warren May
Is it just me or is the latest Radio Shack ad completely moronic? Exactly
where does one go to get an moron/ebonics-to-english translation for this
shit? Has anyone actually been provoked to buy a cell phone based on this
crap? I think i'm gonna puke. Yo-yo, don't cha be dis'in me in my hood 'cuz
i be da bad man wit da ladies and I be down wit it. Word.
In other news, Mcdonald's expects to sell hamburgers using the new
slogan "i'm lovin' it". (Note lowercase "i'm".) Some "media expert"
was quoted in today's paper as saying something to the effect of "it's
somewhere between awful and incomprehensibly terrible", and doesn't
actually tell you anything about the product.
Hehe, reminds me of a famous Ford slogan: "Built Ford tough". What
exactly IS "Ford tough"? From what I've seen of Ford I wouldn't really
consider tough as a proper description. I THINK they were trying to fight
the GM slogan: "like a rock", of course the difference being "like a rock"
actually RELATES to something, "Ford tough" doesn't. TTYL
Marc Bissonnette
2003-09-04 04:19:03 UTC
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Post by repatch
Post by Warren May
Is it just me or is the latest Radio Shack ad completely moronic?
Exactly where does one go to get an moron/ebonics-to-english
translation for this shit? Has anyone actually been provoked to buy
a cell phone based on this crap? I think i'm gonna puke. Yo-yo,
don't cha be dis'in me in my hood 'cuz i be da bad man wit da ladies
and I be down wit it. Word.
In other news, Mcdonald's expects to sell hamburgers using the new
slogan "i'm lovin' it". (Note lowercase "i'm".) Some "media expert"
was quoted in today's paper as saying something to the effect of
"it's somewhere between awful and incomprehensibly terrible", and
doesn't actually tell you anything about the product.
Hehe, reminds me of a famous Ford slogan: "Built Ford tough". What
exactly IS "Ford tough"? From what I've seen of Ford I wouldn't really
consider tough as a proper description. I THINK they were trying to
fight the GM slogan: "like a rock", of course the difference being
"like a rock" actually RELATES to something, "Ford tough" doesn't.
TTYL
Indeed - Heck, everytime I hear the song "Like a rock" (Which is frequent
enough, I have the mp3) I can see a GMC 3/4 ton pickup driving over a
quarry bed.

Mmmmmm. Diesel. Turbo Charged. Posi rear end. Snow Plow. Bush Bars. Skid
Plates.

I have an urge to go look at trucks, now :)
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Warren May
2003-09-04 10:43:43 UTC
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Must... resist... urge... to... drive... over... Marc... with... superior...
DODGE... diesel...

(Sorry, 25 year Chrysler employee, had to put a plug in there somewhere.)
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Post by Marc Bissonnette
Mmmmmm. Diesel. Turbo Charged. Posi rear end. Snow Plow. Bush Bars. Skid
Plates.
I have an urge to go look at trucks, now :)
Marc Bissonnette
2003-09-04 13:14:20 UTC
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Post by Warren May
Must... resist... urge... to... drive... over... Marc... with...
superior... DODGE... diesel...
(Sorry, 25 year Chrysler employee, had to put a plug in there
somewhere.)
Hey, no complaints here - I'd probably be like a dear in the headlights if
it was the Dodge Ram Turbo Diesel - I'd be drooling too much :) :) :)

Doesn't Dodge use the Cummins diesels ? IIRC, they're a supposed to be more
reliable than the Detroits GM uses (I've heard the Detroits have a nasty
habit of pissing oil a little too frequently)

And, of course, it was Dodge that came out with that *awesome* body styling
:) You *know* it's a Dodge Ram heading your way when you see it :) (Well,
it looks like everyone else copied Dodge in the hood and grille styling)

If I had the money for a diesel, I'd go for a Dodge Ram, easily :) If I had
to stick with gasoline, then I'd probably go with GM.
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Warren May
2003-09-04 19:57:47 UTC
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Yes, Dodge uses Cummins. The "new" 24v version this year is fierce. It's now
virtually silent... noise levels now on par with a healthy v-8 Gas engine.
When there's one running in the shop I rarely notice it until I smell the
exhaust fumes. I only have two beefs... Number 1 is price... fercrissake
these things are getting pricey. Number 2 is size. The club-cab dually 4x4
diesel no longer (comfortably) fits in my bay, and they definitely push the
limits of some of our hoists.
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Post by Marc Bissonnette
Post by Warren May
Must... resist... urge... to... drive... over... Marc... with...
superior... DODGE... diesel...
(Sorry, 25 year Chrysler employee, had to put a plug in there somewhere.)
Hey, no complaints here - I'd probably be like a dear in the headlights if
it was the Dodge Ram Turbo Diesel - I'd be drooling too much :) :) :)
Doesn't Dodge use the Cummins diesels ? IIRC, they're a supposed to be more
reliable than the Detroits GM uses (I've heard the Detroits have a nasty
habit of pissing oil a little too frequently)
And, of course, it was Dodge that came out with that *awesome* body styling
:) You *know* it's a Dodge Ram heading your way when you see it :) (Well,
it looks like everyone else copied Dodge in the hood and grille styling)
If I had the money for a diesel, I'd go for a Dodge Ram, easily :) If I had
to stick with gasoline, then I'd probably go with GM.
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Marc Bissonnette
2003-09-04 22:09:52 UTC
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Post by Warren May
Yes, Dodge uses Cummins. The "new" 24v version this year is fierce.
It's now virtually silent... noise levels now on par with a healthy
v-8 Gas engine. When there's one running in the shop I rarely notice
it until I smell the exhaust fumes. I only have two beefs... Number 1
is price... fercrissake these things are getting pricey. Number 2 is
size. The club-cab dually 4x4 diesel no longer (comfortably) fits in
my bay, and they definitely push the limits of some of our hoists.
Re - price - tell me about it. After reading this thread this morning, I
went to both the GM and Dodge sites and used their 'create your vehicle'
scripts - for a 3/4 ton turbo diesel, you're looking at a *starting* price
of $40K - the one I wanted from Dodge would have been $54K the GM one $48K

Sigh.

I'd have to raise my rates and move out of programming and more into sales
to afford my turbo-diesel :(
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Warren May
2003-09-05 01:30:58 UTC
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If you can get a 3500 series Cummins dually for $54k, buy it... cause it'll
be the only one i've ever seen. Most of 'em are pushing $60k now. Every once
in awhile, our PDI bay will see a full size (non-diesel) pickup with a price
under $50k, but it ain't often and they're usually pretty naked.
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Post by Marc Bissonnette
Re - price - tell me about it. After reading this thread this morning, I
went to both the GM and Dodge sites and used their 'create your vehicle'
scripts - for a 3/4 ton turbo diesel, you're looking at a *starting* price
of $40K - the one I wanted from Dodge would have been $54K the GM one $48K
Sigh.
I'd have to raise my rates and move out of programming and more into sales
to afford my turbo-diesel :(
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Marc Bissonnette
2003-09-05 02:12:01 UTC
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Post by Warren May
If you can get a 3500 series Cummins dually for $54k, buy it... cause
it'll be the only one i've ever seen. Most of 'em are pushing $60k
now. Every once in awhile, our PDI bay will see a full size
(non-diesel) pickup with a price under $50k, but it ain't often and
they're usually pretty naked.
Nah, I'm not looking for the one ton or the duelly, since I'd really just
be pushing an extra set of tires on quite a bit of highway driving. I'm
happy with a 2500 / 3/4 ton as a dream vehicle (Well, ok, so my "dream"
vehicle would actually be a half-track, but I don't think that's gonna
happen for a while...)
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Tony Reed
2003-09-04 11:41:21 UTC
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In article <***@207.35.177.135>,
Marc Bissonnette <***@internalysis.com> wrote:

: Indeed - Heck, everytime I hear the song "Like a rock" (Which is frequent
: enough, I have the mp3) I can see a GMC 3/4 ton pickup driving over a
: quarry bed.

You should hire Celino & Barnes, get a class action suit going, then
visit Marineland ...
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JF Mezei
2003-09-04 16:14:19 UTC
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Post by Tony Reed
: Indeed - Heck, everytime I hear the song "Like a rock" (Which is frequent
: enough, I have the mp3) I can see a GMC 3/4 ton pickup driving over a
: quarry bed.
I never knew that this awfull "like a rock" was an actual song. Always saw it
as one of the most annoying piece of noise on TV. Made sure I never buy GMC trucks.
Jacques E. Bouchard
2003-09-04 18:22:14 UTC
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Post by JF Mezei
Post by Tony Reed
: Indeed - Heck, everytime I hear the song "Like a rock"
(Which is
Post by JF Mezei
Post by Tony Reed
: frequent enough, I have the mp3) I can see a GMC 3/4 ton
pickup
Post by JF Mezei
Post by Tony Reed
: driving over a quarry bed.
I never knew that this awfull "like a rock" was an actual
song. Always
Post by JF Mezei
saw it as one of the most annoying piece of noise on TV. Made
sure I
Post by JF Mezei
never buy GMC trucks.
Thing is, the actual song is tragic, about a guy whose
emotionally crippled and can't deal with his life falling
apart.



jaybee
repatch
2003-09-04 14:57:20 UTC
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Post by Marc Bissonnette
Post by repatch
Hehe, reminds me of a famous Ford slogan: "Built Ford tough". What
exactly IS "Ford tough"? From what I've seen of Ford I wouldn't really
consider tough as a proper description. I THINK they were trying to
fight the GM slogan: "like a rock", of course the difference being
"like a rock" actually RELATES to something, "Ford tough" doesn't.
TTYL
Indeed - Heck, everytime I hear the song "Like a rock" (Which is frequent
enough, I have the mp3) I can see a GMC 3/4 ton pickup driving over a
quarry bed.
Mmmmmm. Diesel. Turbo Charged. Posi rear end. Snow Plow. Bush Bars. Skid
Plates.
Hehe, posi, why hasn't that caught on? All those people in the winter
stuck, all I think of is: if they had posi, they'd probably be fine. We have
a 1978 full size van that has posi, and yet the only place you will find one
today is on the same type of vehicle! :) TTYL
Marc Bissonnette
2003-09-04 17:25:27 UTC
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Post by repatch
Post by Marc Bissonnette
Post by repatch
Hehe, reminds me of a famous Ford slogan: "Built Ford tough". What
exactly IS "Ford tough"? From what I've seen of Ford I wouldn't
really consider tough as a proper description. I THINK they were
trying to fight the GM slogan: "like a rock", of course the
difference being "like a rock" actually RELATES to something, "Ford
tough" doesn't. TTYL
Indeed - Heck, everytime I hear the song "Like a rock" (Which is
frequent enough, I have the mp3) I can see a GMC 3/4 ton pickup
driving over a quarry bed.
Mmmmmm. Diesel. Turbo Charged. Posi rear end. Snow Plow. Bush Bars.
Skid Plates.
Hehe, posi, why hasn't that caught on? All those people in the winter
stuck, all I think of is: if they had posi, they'd probably be fine.
We have a 1978 full size van that has posi, and yet the only place you
will find one today is on the same type of vehicle! :) TTYL
It prolly never really caught on because most people saw it as an
expensive option that they didn't understand the value for. You're right,
though - If you've got a posi rear end, chances are you'll never get
stuck... Unless, of course, your drive wheels are both in the air in
which case chances are good you're already in a world of hurt :)

(Friend's '73 Nova had a posi rear end, too, but I'm pretty sure that was
an OEM add on)
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Warren May
2003-09-04 20:04:02 UTC
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Where ya been? Every Jeep out there has some form of posi (a GM reg'd
trademark btw). They use a really nifty little pump that runs off the side
gears (within the pot itself) and generates clutch friction only when
there's a healthy speed differential between axles. The new Rubicon has an
air-locker front axle and conventional track-lok rear axle. Most full size
Dodge trucks have a posi's in the rear as standard equipment, as does
probably 50% of the Dakota lineup.
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Post by repatch
Hehe, posi, why hasn't that caught on? All those people in the winter
stuck, all I think of is: if they had posi, they'd probably be fine. We have
a 1978 full size van that has posi, and yet the only place you will find one
today is on the same type of vehicle! :) TTYL
repatch
2003-09-04 20:13:06 UTC
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I was talking about what MOST sane people drive: cars.

BTW, I've sat in a few Jeeps, I can't understand why people are willing to
pay that much for that thing, but I'm not going to go further then that,
suffice it to say I pretty much hate all SUVs. TTYL
Post by Warren May
Where ya been? Every Jeep out there has some form of posi (a GM reg'd
trademark btw). They use a really nifty little pump that runs off the side
gears (within the pot itself) and generates clutch friction only when
there's a healthy speed differential between axles. The new Rubicon has an
air-locker front axle and conventional track-lok rear axle. Most full size
Dodge trucks have a posi's in the rear as standard equipment, as does
probably 50% of the Dakota lineup.
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Post by repatch
Hehe, posi, why hasn't that caught on? All those people in the winter
stuck, all I think of is: if they had posi, they'd probably be fine. We
have
Post by repatch
a 1978 full size van that has posi, and yet the only place you will find
one
Post by repatch
today is on the same type of vehicle! :) TTYL
Warren May
2003-09-04 20:24:57 UTC
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I bet I hate them more than you.... I have to fix the bloody things. If it
wasn't for the fact that Jeep owners are willing to part with huge sums of
money, i'd never look twice at one. As it is, I earn a healthy living fixing
what they've buggered due to stupidity or lack of maintenance... equal
quantities of both, i'd say.

Up until recently, my daily driver was a Suzuki Swift... putt-putting along
at 40+mpg, all 75hp. I finally cracked under pressure from the wife and
bought an SX2.0, which is not as efficient fuel-wise but is certainly nicer
to drive. On the plus side, it has warranty. On the neg side, it comes with
loan payments.
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Post by repatch
I was talking about what MOST sane people drive: cars.
BTW, I've sat in a few Jeeps, I can't understand why people are willing to
pay that much for that thing, but I'm not going to go further then that,
suffice it to say I pretty much hate all SUVs. TTYL
repatch
2003-09-04 20:38:12 UTC
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Post by Warren May
I bet I hate them more than you.... I have to fix the bloody things. If it
wasn't for the fact that Jeep owners are willing to part with huge sums of
money, i'd never look twice at one. As it is, I earn a healthy living fixing
what they've buggered due to stupidity or lack of maintenance... equal
quantities of both, i'd say.
Up until recently, my daily driver was a Suzuki Swift... putt-putting along
at 40+mpg, all 75hp. I finally cracked under pressure from the wife and
bought an SX2.0, which is not as efficient fuel-wise but is certainly nicer
to drive. On the plus side, it has warranty. On the neg side, it comes with
loan payments.
Hehe, ahh, I knew there had to be a reason you liked them! :) FWIW I
drive an 88 Olds Delta 88, the good old original 3800 (only problem with it
has been a broken timing chain tensioner, fixed ourselves) with an original
hydromatic 4 speed (only problem with that one has been a busted pan
gasket), 340k and still going. I love that car! :) TTYL
Warren May
2003-09-04 21:36:37 UTC
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I also have an 89 Grand Caravan with 317k on the clock and still going.
Pretty much original everything, and when I had it on the dyno a short time
ago it blew so clean that more than one person accused me of "faking" the
numbers... So I ran it again in front of witnesses. I shoulda put money on
the results. ; )
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Post by repatch
Hehe, ahh, I knew there had to be a reason you liked them! :) FWIW I
drive an 88 Olds Delta 88, the good old original 3800 (only problem with it
has been a broken timing chain tensioner, fixed ourselves) with an original
hydromatic 4 speed (only problem with that one has been a busted pan
gasket), 340k and still going. I love that car! :) TTYL
repatch
2003-09-04 21:41:34 UTC
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Post by Warren May
I also have an 89 Grand Caravan with 317k on the clock and still going.
Pretty much original everything, and when I had it on the dyno a short time
ago it blew so clean that more than one person accused me of "faking" the
numbers... So I ran it again in front of witnesses. I shoulda put money on
the results. ; )
You know, that's interesting, both my car and my mom's (an 87 park
avenue, 380k on it) have nearly zero readings as well??!? I guess it shows
that an engine that is in good shape, no matter it's age, can pass those
tests with flying colours. TTYL
Warren May
2003-09-04 21:46:55 UTC
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When drive clean first came out, we had a covert audit by the drive clean
cops. I ran the car, and was chit-chatting with the "customer". I was later
quoted (as a "local drive clean operator") in the Toronto Sun as "being able
to tell the cars that will fail by the smell". I still stand by that
comment, but they didn't like it very much.

It's true. The vast majority of cars pass easily, and those that have had
fundamental regular maintenance are *never* an problem. We're running about
1% failure, and we do probably 50 cars a week.
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Post by Warren May
I also have an 89 Grand Caravan with 317k on the clock and still going.
Pretty much original everything, and when I had it on the dyno a short
time
Post by Warren May
ago it blew so clean that more than one person accused me of "faking" the
numbers... So I ran it again in front of witnesses. I shoulda put money on
the results. ; )
You know, that's interesting, both my car and my mom's (an 87 park
avenue, 380k on it) have nearly zero readings as well??!? I guess it shows
that an engine that is in good shape, no matter it's age, can pass those
tests with flying colours. TTYL
JF Mezei
2003-09-04 03:47:16 UTC
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re: bad Radio Shack ads.

Actually, it is the Future Shop ads that really bother me.
Warren May
2003-09-04 10:45:38 UTC
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Future shop sucks. And now that the shine has worn off their bigger cousin
(but equally sleazy) "Best Buy", so do they.
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re: bad Radio Shack ads.
Actually, it is the Future Shop ads that really bother me.
Madonna
2003-09-06 03:49:04 UTC
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Post by Warren May
Future shop sucks. And now that the shine has worn off their bigger cousin
(but equally sleazy) "Best Buy", so do they.
Well at least you can return your item within 30 days.
Can't do that at the smaller stores.

And they have some good specials from time to time,
(like that LG GSA-4040B 4X DVD+/-RW-RAM burner for 200$).

Never seen the TV ads. I don't watch TV.
The ad I hate the most is the repetitive 'Jean Coutu' that's
playing on all the radio stations in Montreal.
Now I just tune to ad-free spinner.com and shoutcast :-)
Warren May
2003-09-06 11:54:13 UTC
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The last time I was in FutureScam, I was trying to buy a CD/RW drive that
was on sale. First you had to get rid of the 7 clerks who start dry-humping
your leg as soon as you walk in the door. Then you have to convince them
that you really don't want the extended warranty (the one that costs almost
as much as the drive itself). Then they want every bit of marketing info
they can possibly pry out of you. I told them my name was "Cash Sale". That
pissed them off. When I get to the cashier, turns out the clerk had ignored
(unintentionally, i'm sure) my discussion about no extended warranty and had
itemized it anyways. While the cashier fumbled and futzed about trying to
delete the extra charge, I just left it on the counter and walked out the
door. Never been back.

Best Buy has better scams. They don't hound you with clerks. I tried to buy
my WRT54g router there. Price in the flyer was different than the price on
the box which was different again from the price on the shelf. Of course,
the cash register only knew about the highest price, and in order to
convince the cashier otherwise had to physically drag her down to the aisle
and show her the SKU/UPC, then wait for the magical "correction". Would've
been amusing, but there's more items on the shelf this way than not. Then
there's the mysterious "mail in rebate", which appears variously in $US or
$CDN, depending on which aisle you're in. It makes for some very interesting
(and unobtainable) discounts... hell, at times they'd have you believe that
they'll pay *you* to take the merchandise. Ever wait 6 weeks to a year to
get back a $2 rebate? Never been back.

Thanks, but i'll stick to stores where I can walk in, pick up the item, pay
for it, and leave. I know what I want, I know what i'll pay for it, and
everything else in between is usually distraction, misdirection, and
occasionally fraudulent... Oh, and a smile and a THANK YOU from a cashier
would be nice one in awhile too.
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Post by Warren May
Future shop sucks. And now that the shine has worn off their bigger cousin
(but equally sleazy) "Best Buy", so do they.
Well at least you can return your item within 30 days.
Can't do that at the smaller stores.
And they have some good specials from time to time,
(like that LG GSA-4040B 4X DVD+/-RW-RAM burner for 200$).
Never seen the TV ads. I don't watch TV.
The ad I hate the most is the repetitive 'Jean Coutu' that's
playing on all the radio stations in Montreal.
Now I just tune to ad-free spinner.com and shoutcast :-)
Tony Reed
2003-09-06 12:01:24 UTC
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In article <BWj6b.23495$***@news20.bellglobal.com>,
"Warren May" <***@ocitapmys.ca> wrote:

: Thanks, but i'll stick to stores where I can walk in, pick up the item, pay
: for it, and leave. I know what I want, I know what i'll pay for it, and
: everything else in between is usually distraction, misdirection, and
: occasionally fraudulent... Oh, and a smile and a THANK YOU from a cashier
: would be nice one in awhile too.

That's a great post. Fugazi Shop is great if you've researched and know
exactly what you want, then you can take it back, no questions asked.
Just say "no extended warranty" and look the guy straight in the pimples
like you'll rip his throat out if he doesn't take "no" for an answer.

The one on St-Catherine St. in Montreal is about the best, because it's
not part of their regular model: there's no parking lot, it's right
downtown, they get walk-in trade, and there's three competing stores on
the same block. (Ly Electronic, the best, plus the old Crazy Irving,
whatever, plus Audiotronic. Ly and Audiotronic will happily bargain
with you).
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Jacques E. Bouchard
2003-09-06 15:34:07 UTC
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Post by Warren May
Best Buy has better scams. They don't hound you with clerks. I tried
to buy my WRT54g router there. Price in the flyer was different than
the price on the box which was different again from the price on the
shelf. Of course, the cash register only knew about the highest price,
and in order to convince the cashier otherwise had to physically drag
her down to the aisle and show her the SKU/UPC, then wait for the
magical "correction". Would've been amusing, but there's more items on
the shelf this way than not.
There's a new law in Quebec on ticketed prices. If they scan a price
higher than the item's advertised price, you get $10 off the item, or you
get it free if it costs less than $10.




jaybee
JF Mezei
2003-09-06 16:10:58 UTC
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Post by Warren May
The last time I was in FutureScam, I was trying to buy a CD/RW drive that
was on sale. First you had to get rid of the 7 clerks who start dry-humping
your leg as soon as you walk in the door
Interesting. My experience with FutureShop is different. They hide all the
goodies behind a counter, and you have a huge line of people waiting to be
served and there is only one or 2 clerks behind the counter. The line of
people prevents you from seeing what they have, and you don't see the prices either.

That is for the one in downtown montreal. (ste catherine street). The one in
pointe claire is not as evil.
Malcolm Ferguson
2003-09-06 16:34:51 UTC
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Post by Warren May
The last time I was in FutureScam, I was trying to buy a CD/RW drive that
was on sale. [...] you have to convince them that you really don't want the extended warranty (the one that costs almost as much as the drive itself)
I suspect for pricier items that the extended warranty /might/ be
worthwhile. It was for me the one time I purchased it. I bought a
multi-disc changer DVD player back before they started getting really
cheap. I probably paid an extra 15% for the extended warranty. It paid
for itself this year when I had two occurrences of the player being
unable to load a disc. I'm hoping it goes another time (not that I like
wasting my time running back and forth to the shop) because I'm going to
start demanding a replacement under the warranty. My DVD player can't
officially read CD-Rs either you see. ;) Yeah, so I would have got a
better return if I'd invested the money elsewhere, but lets be honest, I
would have just spent it on something else instead.

Malc
Warren May
2003-09-06 21:23:03 UTC
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Keep in mind that FutureScam has (in the past) been convicted of selling
demo/used merchandise as new. I especially liked the time (many years ago)
when I tried to buy a 3.5" version of Windows 3.0 couldn't find one on the
shelf still shrink-wrapped. The clerk tried to convince me that it "didn't
matter" if it was wrapped or not. Uh-huh. Funny how all their "demo"
machines were running Win3.0 at the time. Sorry, but I wouldn't trust them
to sell me a pair of shoelaces.
--
Warren
Sympatico is backwards when replying.
Post by Malcolm Ferguson
Post by Warren May
The last time I was in FutureScam, I was trying to buy a CD/RW drive that
was on sale. [...] you have to convince them that you really don't want
the extended warranty (the one that costs almost as much as the drive
itself)
Post by Malcolm Ferguson
I suspect for pricier items that the extended warranty /might/ be
worthwhile. It was for me the one time I purchased it. I bought a
multi-disc changer DVD player back before they started getting really
cheap. I probably paid an extra 15% for the extended warranty. It paid
for itself this year when I had two occurrences of the player being
unable to load a disc. I'm hoping it goes another time (not that I like
wasting my time running back and forth to the shop) because I'm going to
start demanding a replacement under the warranty. My DVD player can't
officially read CD-Rs either you see. ;) Yeah, so I would have got a
better return if I'd invested the money elsewhere, but lets be honest, I
would have just spent it on something else instead.
Malc
Warren May
2003-09-04 10:39:29 UTC
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Hasn't McDonalds just hired Justin Timberlake as a product spokesperson? If
that's the case, then perhaps it should be "I *was* lovin' it". Now that his
skank girlfriend gone full-time whore'in elsewhere, I think he's flyin' solo
so to speak. Then again...
--
Warren
Sympatico is backwards when replying.
In other news, Mcdonald's expects to sell hamburgers using the new
slogan "i'm lovin' it". (Note lowercase "i'm".) Some "media expert"
was quoted in today's paper as saying something to the effect of "it's
somewhere between awful and incomprehensibly terrible", and doesn't
actually tell you anything about the product.
Warren May
2003-09-04 10:51:15 UTC
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Yup. I vote with my dollars, and generally don't shop at stores that insult
my intelligence. And i've told them so via e-mail.
--
Warren
Sympatico is backwards when replying.
You're willing to complain but are you willing to do something about it?
Post by Warren May
<begin rant>
Is it just me or is the latest Radio Shack ad completely moronic? Exactly
where does one go to get an moron/ebonics-to-english translation for this
shit? Has anyone actually been provoked to buy a cell phone based on this
crap? I think i'm gonna puke. Yo-yo, don't cha be dis'in me in my hood
'cuz
Post by Warren May
i be da bad man wit da ladies and I be down wit it. Word.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHH!
<end rant>
--
Warren
Sympatico is backwards when replying.
Laurent
2003-09-04 12:14:08 UTC
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Post by Warren May
<begin rant>
Is it just me or is the latest Radio Shack ad completely moronic?
Exactly where does one go to get an moron/ebonics-to-english
translation for this shit? Has anyone actually been provoked to buy a
cell phone based on this crap? I think i'm gonna puke. Yo-yo, don't
cha be dis'in me in my hood 'cuz i be da bad man wit da ladies and I
be down wit it. Word.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHH!
<end rant>
On my that's awful! This reminds me of the current Yellow (shoe store) ad
campaing in french here in Quebec, where *EVERY* word in the paper
advertisement is preceded with "full" such as:

FULL RÉDUCTION
FULL MODE
FULL Attitude
FULL HIVERS
FULL Cuir

priceless :)

Laurent
Jacques E. Bouchard
2003-09-04 12:27:47 UTC
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Post by Laurent
On my that's awful! This reminds me of the current Yellow
(shoe store) ad
Post by Laurent
campaing in french here in Quebec, where *EVERY* word in the
paper
Post by Laurent
FULL RÉDUCTION
FULL MODE
FULL Attitude
FULL HIVERS
FULL Cuir
priceless :)
Just so the anglos will get it, "full" is the peefix that
teenagers have been adding to almost everything as a qualifier.
For instance: "full cool", etc.

Naturally, as soon as the term becomes outdated, every ad
campaign designed by 50-something balding men will make
extensive use of it. Kinda like those Michelina frozen dinners
that play (still!) on the Macarena danse.



jaybee
Laurent
2003-09-04 12:42:19 UTC
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Post by Jacques E. Bouchard
Naturally, as soon as the term becomes outdated, every ad
campaign designed by 50-something balding men will make
extensive use of it. Kinda like those Michelina frozen dinners
that play (still!) on the Macarena danse.
Now *THAT* is a very good reason why I would enjoy keeping a shotgun next to
the living room couch. In case of emergencies...


Laurent
"I would have a new tv everyday"
Warren May
2003-09-04 20:07:45 UTC
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Aw, c'mon... ya mean a bunch of fat sweaty guys in uniforms doing some form
of belly dance while spewing the virtues of a tv dinner don't get you all
fired up to run to the store and buy some?

What were they thinking anyways? Or were they?
--
Warren
Sympatico is backwards when replying.
Post by Laurent
Post by Jacques E. Bouchard
Naturally, as soon as the term becomes outdated, every ad
campaign designed by 50-something balding men will make
extensive use of it. Kinda like those Michelina frozen dinners
that play (still!) on the Macarena danse.
Now *THAT* is a very good reason why I would enjoy keeping a shotgun next to
the living room couch. In case of emergencies...
Laurent
"I would have a new tv everyday"
JF Mezei
2003-09-04 16:26:30 UTC
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Post by Jacques E. Bouchard
extensive use of it. Kinda like those Michelina frozen dinners
that play (still!) on the Macarena danse.
Another product I don't buy because of their ads.

Geez, you'd think that ad makers would stop using noises that cause people to
stop buying their products.
Jacques E. Bouchard
2003-09-04 18:15:49 UTC
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Post by JF Mezei
Post by Jacques E. Bouchard
extensive use of it. Kinda like those Michelina frozen
dinners
Post by JF Mezei
Post by Jacques E. Bouchard
that play (still!) on the Macarena danse.
Another product I don't buy because of their ads.
Geez, you'd think that ad makers would stop using noises that
cause
Post by JF Mezei
people to stop buying their products.
Or at least get with the 21st century!



jaybee
Tony Reed
2003-09-05 11:25:26 UTC
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In article <***@istop.com>,
JF Mezei <***@istop.com> wrote:

: Another product I don't buy because of their ads.

There a lots of other reasons not to buy that crap.
--
Tony Reed
<***@altern.org>
Some of us are Outlaws, and some Trespassers upon
the very World. -- Thomas Pynchon
Colin
2003-09-04 23:19:05 UTC
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Post by Jacques E. Bouchard
Naturally, as soon as the term becomes outdated, every ad
campaign designed by 50-something balding men will make extensive use
of it. Kinda like those Michelina frozen dinners that play (still!) on
the Macarena danse.
You HAD to bring that one up, didn't you? ;-) I can't stand the song
(or the dance or Kirstie Alley's annoying Pier 1 ads).
Marc Bissonnette
2003-09-05 14:37:57 UTC
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Post by Colin
Post by Jacques E. Bouchard
Naturally, as soon as the term becomes outdated, every ad
campaign designed by 50-something balding men will make extensive use
of it. Kinda like those Michelina frozen dinners that play (still!) on
the Macarena danse.
You HAD to bring that one up, didn't you? ;-) I can't stand the song
(or the dance or Kirstie Alley's annoying Pier 1 ads).
Oh geez, Kirstie Alley's ads are enough to make me want to stick my head in
a blender and hit "Frappé"

First she's a scientologist, then the Pier 1 ads - sigh. I used to think
she was such a babe, too :(
--
Marc Bissonnette
/ Perl / CGI / Database / Dynamic Web Content Control /
http://www.internalysis.com
Looking for a new ISP? http://www.canadianisp.com
Warren May
2003-09-05 21:58:35 UTC
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Hey Marc... if you had her for a girlfriend, you'd *need* that dually diesel
just to haul her fat carcass around. When she goes for a beach holiday,
Greenpeace keeps trying to drag her back out to sea...
--
Warren
Sympatico is backwards when replying.
Post by Marc Bissonnette
Post by Colin
Post by Jacques E. Bouchard
Naturally, as soon as the term becomes outdated, every ad
campaign designed by 50-something balding men will make extensive use
of it. Kinda like those Michelina frozen dinners that play (still!) on
the Macarena danse.
You HAD to bring that one up, didn't you? ;-) I can't stand the song
(or the dance or Kirstie Alley's annoying Pier 1 ads).
Oh geez, Kirstie Alley's ads are enough to make me want to stick my head in
a blender and hit "Frappé"
First she's a scientologist, then the Pier 1 ads - sigh. I used to think
she was such a babe, too :(
--
Marc Bissonnette
/ Perl / CGI / Database / Dynamic Web Content Control /
http://www.internalysis.com
Looking for a new ISP? http://www.canadianisp.com
Marc Bissonnette
2003-09-05 22:05:00 UTC
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Post by Warren May
Hey Marc... if you had her for a girlfriend, you'd *need* that dually
diesel just to haul her fat carcass around. When she goes for a beach
holiday, Greenpeace keeps trying to drag her back out to sea...
LOL!!!

Well, she's not all that fat, unless she's *really* put on the pounds since
those pier 1 ads. What a shame, she was such a babe in Cheers :)
--
Marc Bissonnette
/ Perl / CGI / Database / Dynamic Web Content Control /
http://www.internalysis.com
Looking for a new ISP? http://www.canadianisp.com
Bruce Couper
2003-09-04 19:06:52 UTC
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Post by Warren May
<begin rant>
[Interesting off topic diversion snipped]

As long as we are doing the off-topic bit...

"Kills bugs dead!" -- is there some other way?

Windows 95 theme -- Start Me Up -- I think the part just a bit further
on, "You make a grown man cry...", is particularly appropriate.

"Technical support" brings us back on topic and still seems oxymoronic.

My little contribution
--
Replace obvious bit with sympatico to reply privately
JF Mezei
2003-09-04 19:44:00 UTC
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Post by Bruce Couper
Windows 95 theme -- Start Me Up -- I think the part just a bit further
on, "You make a grown man cry...", is particularly appropriate.
The Rolling Stones should have retired that song. Whenever they play it now,
it diminishes their own value because it brings them down to the low levels of
Microsoft commercialism.

BTW, that show in Toronto was the world't biggest ever outdoor show, way
bigger that woodstock. Why then was it a publicity failure ? Because the
Rolling Stones refused to make the concert "public domain", so nobody covered it.

In the past, "aid" shows such as Band Aid etc were all public domain and
broadcasted by everyone all around the world. But because the Rolling Stones
participated in the toronto show, instead of making publicity for Toronto, it
resulted in the concert being totally ignored by the rest of the world who
didn't have access to coverage.

So , the Rolling Stones sold out to Microsoft, and then ruined the prospects
of helping Toronto by preventing coverage of the concert around the world. I
don't particularly like Toronto, but I think that the Rolling Stones hurt
themselves and Toronto.
Colin
2003-09-05 23:04:21 UTC
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Post by JF Mezei
BTW, that show in Toronto was the world't biggest ever outdoor show,
Not even close. The largest outdoor show was held by Rod Stewart in
Brazil with about 3.5 million people.
Tony Reed
2003-09-05 11:13:02 UTC
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In article <***@207.35.177.134>,
Bruce Couper <***@obviousbit.ca> wrote:

: Windows 95 theme -- Start Me Up -- I think the part just a bit further
: on, "You make a grown man cry...", is particularly appropriate.

"got to scrape the shit right off your shoes ..."
--
Tony Reed
<***@altern.org>
Some of us are Outlaws, and some Trespassers upon
the very World. -- Thomas Pynchon
Crow
2003-09-06 02:06:24 UTC
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Hey lay of the Maple Donuts!!!
.....ah, Sweet Virginia, it don't get much better then that honey child!

Quit whatever you are doing Tony and become a script writer for some
up-coming Liberal pollution like Sharon... errr.... Jennifer Mossop.

But come on, come on down Sweet Virginia,
Come on, honey child, I beg of you.
Come on, come on down, you got it in ya.
Post by Tony Reed
"got to scrape the shit right off your shoes ..."
--
Tony Reed
Some of us are Outlaws, and some Trespassers upon
the very World. -- Thomas Pynchon
Tony Reed
2003-09-06 11:54:49 UTC
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In article <jib6b.4131$***@news20.bellglobal.com>,
"Crow" <***@bait.com> wrote:

: But come on, come on down Sweet Virginia,
: Come on, honey child, I beg of you.
: Come on, come on down, you got it in ya.

... thank you for your wine, California.

(I think the "shit" he was referring to was the kind you put in, not the
kind you dump out. That was the golden age of the Stones, my dearie me
yes. "Wild Horses", stuff like that. )

May the good lord shine a light on you.
--
Tony Reed
<***@altern.org>
Some of us are Outlaws, and some Trespassers upon
the very World. -- Thomas Pynchon
Crow
2003-09-06 13:55:46 UTC
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....this song brings back memories of my mother screaming at me to take that
damn song of the needle. I think the tune annoyed her so because of the fact
that they faded Jagger's vocals almost totally in the mix, making her shriek
that she couldn't understand a damned word from the "nice" country tune
other than the "Got to scrape the shit right off your shoes" :)

Sweet Virginia, sweet bitter fruits, hid the speed inside my
shoes....definitely not pass the toilet paper.
Post by Tony Reed
: But come on, come on down Sweet Virginia,
: Come on, honey child, I beg of you.
: Come on, come on down, you got it in ya.
... thank you for your wine, California.
(I think the "shit" he was referring to was the kind you put in, not the
kind you dump out. That was the golden age of the Stones, my dearie me
yes. "Wild Horses", stuff like that. )
May the good lord shine a light on you.
--
Tony Reed
Some of us are Outlaws, and some Trespassers upon
the very World. -- Thomas Pynchon
Tony
2022-05-06 21:13:22 UTC
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Post by Warren May
<begin rant>
Is it just me or is the latest Radio Shack ad completely moronic? Exactly
where does one go to get an moron/ebonics-to-english translation for this
shit? Has anyone actually been provoked to buy a cell phone based on this
crap? I think i'm gonna puke. Yo-yo, don't cha be dis'in me in my hood 'cuz
i be da bad man wit da ladies and I be down wit it. Word.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHH!
<end rant>
Guess who this is?


He has an overinflated ego because people keep responding to him...
Ignore him. If you must reply to him, refer to him as John Shields otherwise
you're just feeding his little fantasy "i'm a pinball god" thing. He's a
cockroach... nothing more.

At the very least, snip his drivel from your replies and save the rest of us
(who plonked him years ago) from having to see his crap over and over.

For the record, his father was a lobotomized longshoreman and his mother was
a bisexual crack whore with a speech impediment. He was brought up on a
steady diet of cheerios and rancid codfish. He drinks his own urine and
usually keeps pencil shavings in his pockets.
--
Warren May
It's obvious where the sympatico should be when replying.
Post by Warren May
You don't have the right answers, pal. You DO have an overinflated ego,
probably stemming from feelings of inadequacy due to years of
physical and
Post by Warren May
mental abuse from one or both parents.
Go get some help. Leave this newsgroup. Get a real life.
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