Discussion:
Nothing but Net throttling download speeds before 2:00am?
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Orman Malumba
2003-09-11 12:04:11 UTC
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Anyone notice the same thing seems to be throttled at 516 kilobits per
second on the down side from 5:00am to 2:00am
Ric
2003-09-11 13:58:07 UTC
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Seems to be throttled that way for me between 5am to 5am! Although, half the
time I can't even get to some sights. Does anyone know what's going on? I'm
waiting for an e-mail reply from tech support.

Ric
Post by Orman Malumba
Anyone notice the same thing seems to be throttled at 516 kilobits per
second on the down side from 5:00am to 2:00am
Madonna
2003-09-11 14:47:22 UTC
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Post by Ric
between 5am to 5am!
Do you mean it's not throttled ?
Post by Ric
Post by Orman Malumba
from 5:00am to 2:00am
Do you mean it's not throttled only 3 hours per day ?
Ric
2003-09-11 23:48:46 UTC
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Post by Madonna
Post by Ric
between 5am to 5am!
Do you mean it's not throttled ?
Post by Ric
Post by Orman Malumba
from 5:00am to 2:00am
Do you mean it's not throttled only 3 hours per day ?
I mean, I'm paying for the 3 MBps service but I've been unable to get speeds
above 500 kbps over the last several days. And it's not limited to a certain
time of day, it's all day. I've e-mailed tech support but have not yet heard
back from them. I hope this is a temporary problem with nutnbut.net because
I'd really like to stick with them, but at this level of service added to
their reluctance to initiate a real solution to the crappy usenet issue, I'm
starting to look at other providers...

Ric
Splitskull
2003-09-12 00:03:05 UTC
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I got free news from 2 diff providers. 50+50MB/day is enuf for me, retention
is good.
Now if only they fix this speed/auth problems....
--
Splitskull
Post by Ric
Post by Madonna
Post by Ric
between 5am to 5am!
Do you mean it's not throttled ?
Post by Ric
Post by Orman Malumba
from 5:00am to 2:00am
Do you mean it's not throttled only 3 hours per day ?
I mean, I'm paying for the 3 MBps service but I've been unable to get speeds
above 500 kbps over the last several days. And it's not limited to a certain
time of day, it's all day. I've e-mailed tech support but have not yet heard
back from them. I hope this is a temporary problem with nutnbut.net because
I'd really like to stick with them, but at this level of service added to
their reluctance to initiate a real solution to the crappy usenet issue, I'm
starting to look at other providers...
Ric
Dick Stroker
2003-09-12 02:19:41 UTC
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I like how the bastards at nutnbut.net blame viruses for the slowdowns and
auth problems.

i believe the technical term for the slowdowns is "overselling".
Post by Splitskull
I got free news from 2 diff providers. 50+50MB/day is enuf for me, retention
is good.
Now if only they fix this speed/auth problems....
--
Splitskull
Post by Ric
Post by Madonna
Post by Ric
between 5am to 5am!
Do you mean it's not throttled ?
Post by Ric
Post by Orman Malumba
from 5:00am to 2:00am
Do you mean it's not throttled only 3 hours per day ?
I mean, I'm paying for the 3 MBps service but I've been unable to get
speeds
Post by Ric
above 500 kbps over the last several days. And it's not limited to a
certain
Post by Ric
time of day, it's all day. I've e-mailed tech support but have not yet
heard
Post by Ric
back from them. I hope this is a temporary problem with nutnbut.net
because
Post by Ric
I'd really like to stick with them, but at this level of service added to
their reluctance to initiate a real solution to the crappy usenet issue,
I'm
Post by Ric
starting to look at other providers...
Ric
Splitskull
2003-09-12 03:12:05 UTC
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I give them 1-2 months... if is not fixed I switch to others.... There is
plenty of uncapped, 29.95/month dsl avail :)
But I hope they will improve.....again....It was good until a few weeks
ago....I hate switching ISPs but.....
--
Splitskull
Post by Dick Stroker
I like how the bastards at nutnbut.net blame viruses for the slowdowns and
auth problems.
i believe the technical term for the slowdowns is "overselling".
Post by Splitskull
I got free news from 2 diff providers. 50+50MB/day is enuf for me,
retention
Post by Splitskull
is good.
Now if only they fix this speed/auth problems....
--
Splitskull
Post by Ric
Post by Madonna
Post by Ric
between 5am to 5am!
Do you mean it's not throttled ?
Post by Ric
Post by Orman Malumba
from 5:00am to 2:00am
Do you mean it's not throttled only 3 hours per day ?
I mean, I'm paying for the 3 MBps service but I've been unable to get
speeds
Post by Ric
above 500 kbps over the last several days. And it's not limited to a
certain
Post by Ric
time of day, it's all day. I've e-mailed tech support but have not yet
heard
Post by Ric
back from them. I hope this is a temporary problem with nutnbut.net
because
Post by Ric
I'd really like to stick with them, but at this level of service added
to
Post by Splitskull
Post by Ric
their reluctance to initiate a real solution to the crappy usenet issue,
I'm
Post by Ric
starting to look at other providers...
Ric
Madonna
2003-09-12 21:08:51 UTC
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Post by Splitskull
I give them 1-2 months... if is not fixed I switch to others.... There is
plenty of uncapped, 29.95/month dsl avail :)
But I hope they will improve.....again....It was good until a few weeks
ago....I hate switching ISPs but.....
The network isn't theirs. They resell nerdsonline (used to resell golden) connectivity
so all they can do is ask them to fix the problem or start reselling someone else.
IntX
2003-09-13 17:39:32 UTC
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Post by Splitskull
I got free news from 2 diff providers. 50+50MB/day is enuf for me,
retention is good.
Now if only they fix this speed/auth problems....
which 2?
Splitskull
2003-09-13 21:48:17 UTC
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terranews and astra"something".de :)
--
Splitskull
Post by IntX
Post by Splitskull
I got free news from 2 diff providers. 50+50MB/day is enuf for me,
retention is good.
Now if only they fix this speed/auth problems....
which 2?
Alexander Fong
2003-09-12 07:09:31 UTC
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Post by Ric
I mean, I'm paying for the 3 MBps service but I've been unable to get speeds
above 500 kbps over the last several days. And it's not limited to a certain
time of day, it's all day. I've e-mailed tech support but have not yet heard
back from them. I hope this is a temporary problem with nutnbut.net because
I'd really like to stick with them, but at this level of service added to
their reluctance to initiate a real solution to the crappy usenet issue, I'm
starting to look at other providers...
They're most likely getting blasted by new variants of the Blaster and
Welchia worm. This is what happens when there isn't such a thing as
"corporate responsibility".
--
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Alexander Fong ap_fong (put @ here, .. = .) alcor..concordia..ca
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Men at some time are masters of their fates.
-Shakespeare
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Orman Malumba
2003-09-12 10:56:26 UTC
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Not likely sounds most likely.
Post by Alexander Fong
Post by Ric
I mean, I'm paying for the 3 MBps service but I've been unable to get speeds
above 500 kbps over the last several days. And it's not limited to a certain
time of day, it's all day. I've e-mailed tech support but have not yet heard
back from them. I hope this is a temporary problem with nutnbut.net because
I'd really like to stick with them, but at this level of service added to
their reluctance to initiate a real solution to the crappy usenet issue, I'm
starting to look at other providers...
They're most likely getting blasted by new variants of the Blaster and
Welchia worm. This is what happens when there isn't such a thing as
"corporate responsibility".
--
**********************************************************************
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Men at some time are masters of their fates.
-Shakespeare
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splice
2003-09-22 22:19:24 UTC
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Post by Alexander Fong
Post by Ric
I mean, I'm paying for the 3 MBps service but I've been unable to get speeds
above 500 kbps over the last several days. And it's not limited to a certain
time of day, it's all day. I've e-mailed tech support but have not yet heard
back from them. I hope this is a temporary problem with nutnbut.net because
I'd really like to stick with them, but at this level of service added to
their reluctance to initiate a real solution to the crappy usenet issue, I'm
starting to look at other providers...
They're most likely getting blasted by new variants of the Blaster and
Welchia worm. This is what happens when there isn't such a thing as
"corporate responsibility".
Being affected by the same problem, here's the story(ies) given to me.
Just so you know, I'm a member of Hyperfast.ca, which resells
nutnbut.net. Noticed the slow speeds, so I checked my modem, saw it was
syncing at the right speed, pings to dslagg.nerdsonline.com (gateway I go
through) were weird. Went from 3 seconds down to 2, 1, .8, .5, .3, .1,
then back to 3 and on again. Called nutnbut.net, as hyperfast.ca has NO
phone support (they have a phone number which usually doesn't get
answered, and forwards to a VM saying to not leave a message as the VM
doesn't work properly). The lady I got was adamant in her effort to pass
the buck down to hyperfast.ca, didn't want to listen to my story, didn't
want to give me any info. I turned my modem on/off, speeds were back and
pings were normal again. Weird.

The day after, same problem, but pings are normal. Just the speed sucks. I
go through the rigmarole again, resync, no improvement. I fire off an
email to my provider. They reply some days later with a story about a
cisco firmware update for the blaster worm that screwed things up and that
they're working with cisco to fix the problem. I do a double-take, search
the net, find absolutely nothing about such a firmware update or problems
associated with it. I find a best practices document from cisco on
mitigating the effects of blaster, which of course uses ACLs and so on, no
mention of a firmware update. I reply to my provider asking more details,
saying I can't find anything about that supposed firmware update, point
them to the page I found at cisco. Next day, I'm tired of waiting for them
to reply again. I phone nutnbut.net again.

I explain the situation. I ask about the speed problems. I get told
they're currently 'at capacity' and throttled everyone until they get a
new router. Oh, how different from the email I got from my ISP. Wonder why
they told me that about the firmware update and everything...

Last Thursday, I get an email from my ISP. Know what? No comments at all
on the blaster firmware update, just a note saying that the new router is
in, they only need to test and configure it and service would be back
'shortly'.

Today, the speed is still at it's 60-70kb/s peak. I send another email to
my ISP. It's now been over 2 weeks that I'm paying for 3mbit and getting
half the speed of a 1mbit connection. Needless to say, I'm pissed.
Difficult to say if it's because of the awful speed or the total lack of
any notices anywhere (their web site, nutnbut.net's website, or
nerdsonline (which of course redirects to nerdsonsite, an computer
service company). Actually, I just went and checked right now. My ISP's
web site isn't responding, and nutnbut.net doesn't even seem to have a
server status section. nerdsonsite, of course, has tons of information
about to request a computer service from them, but I see nothing about
them selling DSL access, and of course no server status page.

There's also a funny story involving nerdsonsite, me trying to explain
that I don't want a service from them, I just want info on the speed
problems, a 3 hour callback time and a few days before I get a message on
my answering machine.

From what I see, there was a problem, a wide-sweeping change was put into
effect without the admins bothering to tell the clients, and everyone is
wondering what's going on. For myself, I hope I got the real story and
that they finish configuring the @%@#%^@ router. I mean, how many days can
you spend configuring interfaces, routing and encapsulation?

splice
splice
2003-09-22 22:36:01 UTC
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Post by splice
Last Thursday, I get an email from my ISP. Know what? No comments at all
on the blaster firmware update, just a note saying that the new router is
in, they only need to test and configure it and service would be back
'shortly'.
And of course, just to get the story straight, I just called nutnbut.net.
Nope, the router's not in, and they have no idea why my current ISP
would think so. So, uh... just keep waiting. No ETA.

Just great.

splice
Ric
2003-09-23 02:31:58 UTC
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Post by splice
Post by splice
Last Thursday, I get an email from my ISP. Know what? No comments at all
on the blaster firmware update, just a note saying that the new router is
in, they only need to test and configure it and service would be back
'shortly'.
And of course, just to get the story straight, I just called nutnbut.net.
Nope, the router's not in, and they have no idea why my current ISP
would think so. So, uh... just keep waiting. No ETA.
Just great.
splice
Nothing but net doesn't believe in communicating with their customers. I
believe they used to resell golden.net and when they switched there was no
advanced warning. After being unable to connect for half a day, I finally
called support and was told all the server names had changed. Would have
been nice if they told us...

I'm pretty fed up with this. When I called last week they just said they
throttled the speeds to improve connectivity and they were working on it and
"it shouldn't be much longer". That may be the case with my account there
too... I'm going to give them another week to fix this.

Ric
Tony Reed
2003-09-22 22:55:44 UTC
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In article <***@nonono.spum.com>,
splice <***@nonono.spum.com> wrote:

: Being affected by the same problem, here's the story(ies) given to me.
: Just so you know,
[ ... ]

Looks to me like you get what you pay for with these dinky little
companies.
--
Tony Reed
<***@altern.org>
Some of us are Outlaws, and some Trespassers upon
the very World. -- Thomas Pynchon
Madonna
2003-09-23 18:42:20 UTC
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Post by Tony Reed
: Being affected by the same problem, here's the story(ies) given to me.
: Just so you know,
[ ... ]
Looks to me like you get what you pay for with these dinky little
companies.
Nutnbut.net gave a cap-free service and local dial up while most other ISPs didn't.

But...
Info: They never had a decent web site, unless you consider the weather in London and flash animation relevant.
Email: Seeing the "professional" state of the web site, I stuck with Hotmail for email purposes. My NBN mailbox has never been
spammed!
News: sucks real bad these days, many recent (1 day old) can.internet.highspeed posts are missing. (I can see the missing at
news.astraweb.com)
Web: surfing during the day is sloooooooooow.
Ftp: 50k/s, used to be 2.2x that speed

But that's nbn, I don't know about Hyperslow.ca
Ric
2003-09-23 23:27:33 UTC
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Post by Madonna
Post by Tony Reed
: Being affected by the same problem, here's the story(ies) given to me.
: Just so you know,
[ ... ]
Looks to me like you get what you pay for with these dinky little
companies.
Nutnbut.net gave a cap-free service and local dial up while most other ISPs didn't.
But...
Info: They never had a decent web site, unless you consider the weather in
London and flash animation relevant.
Post by Madonna
Email: Seeing the "professional" state of the web site, I stuck with
Hotmail for email purposes. My NBN mailbox has never been
Post by Madonna
spammed!
News: sucks real bad these days, many recent (1 day old)
can.internet.highspeed posts are missing. (I can see the missing at
Post by Madonna
news.astraweb.com)
Web: surfing during the day is sloooooooooow.
Ftp: 50k/s, used to be 2.2x that speed
But that's nbn, I don't know about Hyperslow.ca
How do you like astraweb?

NBN was great when I started. Consistently got as close to the 3 MBps
threshold as you could reasonably expect (around 2.8 usually). When they
were with ispnews I was pleasantly surprised by the great usenet, which
sucks now. And yes, looking at their website I didn't ever intend to rely on
them for my mail either. However, for what I wanted, a fast reliable
connection, they were great. And that appears to have come to an end... :(

I'm thinking of switching to Cybernet. Can anyone here comment on their
connection speed/reliability both in the past and recently? They also seem
to have a decent usenet provider with daily bitcaps, but probably fine for
my needs. I can always supplant that with an astraweb account if I need
more.

Ric
Madonna
2003-09-24 01:37:49 UTC
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Post by Ric
How do you like astraweb?
I'm still using the nutnbut as my main server (I shouldn't but I'm lazy),
but I read all the missing stuff in astraweb. So far so good.
Haven't really tried binaries.

I'm trying out thunderbird, newsbin, and XNews to see which will help
with this problem. Of course they're completely different interfaces,
newsbin is binary oriented,
thunderbird looks platform independent so the widgets look uglier than Outlook Express,
XNews has an annoying multi window interface instead of the 3-pane view,
Tony
2022-05-16 21:41:52 UTC
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Post by splice
Post by Alexander Fong
Post by Ric
I mean, I'm paying for the 3 MBps service but I've been unable to get speeds
above 500 kbps over the last several days. And it's not limited to a certain
time of day, it's all day. I've e-mailed tech support but have not yet heard
back from them. I hope this is a temporary problem with nutnbut.net because
I'd really like to stick with them, but at this level of service added to
their reluctance to initiate a real solution to the crappy usenet issue, I'm
starting to look at other providers...
They're most likely getting blasted by new variants of the Blaster and
Welchia worm. This is what happens when there isn't such a thing as
"corporate responsibility".
Being affected by the same problem, here's the story(ies) given to me.
Just so you know, I'm a member of Hyperfast.ca, which resells
nutnbut.net. Noticed the slow speeds, so I checked my modem, saw it was
syncing at the right speed, pings to dslagg.nerdsonline.com (gateway I go
through) were weird. Went from 3 seconds down to 2, 1, .8, .5, .3, .1,
then back to 3 and on again. Called nutnbut.net, as hyperfast.ca has NO
phone support (they have a phone number which usually doesn't get
answered, and forwards to a VM saying to not leave a message as the VM
doesn't work properly). The lady I got was adamant in her effort to pass
the buck down to hyperfast.ca, didn't want to listen to my story, didn't
want to give me any info. I turned my modem on/off, speeds were back and
pings were normal again. Weird.
The day after, same problem, but pings are normal. Just the speed sucks. I
go through the rigmarole again, resync, no improvement. I fire off an
email to my provider. They reply some days later with a story about a
cisco firmware update for the blaster worm that screwed things up and that
they're working with cisco to fix the problem. I do a double-take, search
the net, find absolutely nothing about such a firmware update or problems
associated with it. I find a best practices document from cisco on
mitigating the effects of blaster, which of course uses ACLs and so on, no
mention of a firmware update. I reply to my provider asking more details,
saying I can't find anything about that supposed firmware update, point
them to the page I found at cisco. Next day, I'm tired of waiting for them
to reply again. I phone nutnbut.net again.
I explain the situation. I ask about the speed problems. I get told
they're currently 'at capacity' and throttled everyone until they get a
new router. Oh, how different from the email I got from my ISP. Wonder why
they told me that about the firmware update and everything...
Last Thursday, I get an email from my ISP. Know what? No comments at all
on the blaster firmware update, just a note saying that the new router is
in, they only need to test and configure it and service would be back
'shortly'.
Today, the speed is still at it's 60-70kb/s peak. I send another email to
my ISP. It's now been over 2 weeks that I'm paying for 3mbit and getting
half the speed of a 1mbit connection. Needless to say, I'm pissed.
Difficult to say if it's because of the awful speed or the total lack of
any notices anywhere (their web site, nutnbut.net's website, or
nerdsonline (which of course redirects to nerdsonsite, an computer
service company). Actually, I just went and checked right now. My ISP's
web site isn't responding, and nutnbut.net doesn't even seem to have a
server status section. nerdsonsite, of course, has tons of information
about to request a computer service from them, but I see nothing about
them selling DSL access, and of course no server status page.
There's also a funny story involving nerdsonsite, me trying to explain
that I don't want a service from them, I just want info on the speed
problems, a 3 hour callback time and a few days before I get a message on
my answering machine.
From what I see, there was a problem, a wide-sweeping change was put into
effect without the admins bothering to tell the clients, and everyone is
wondering what's going on. For myself, I hope I got the real story and
you spend configuring interfaces, routing and encapsulation?
splice
There's no gettin' around it Nothing but Net is nothing but shit. I've
had a gut fulla their F-R-O-G throttle boxes and their news server is
busted again and missing 90 percent of the threads of my dick or wiener.
TBA
2003-09-12 13:40:57 UTC
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Judging by the speeds tests on dsl reports the date September the first 2003
seems to ring a bell.
Post by Orman Malumba
Anyone notice the same thing seems to be throttled at 516 kilobits per
second on the down side from 5:00am to 2:00am
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